HELP. Can't Login any more

Hi Folks

I really don't know why this as happened as I haven't done any  
tinkering this morning, and has been working fine all week.

I booted up and logged in fine this morning, then I used a different  
account for my kids to do some typing.

Now when I boot up I get the login screen I login and the login  
process starts and then I am sent back to the login screen.

I have tried using crtl+alt+f1 for terminal login and the same thing  
happens I keep being sent back to the login.

I have also tried failsafe mode both gnome and terminal.

I have run out of ideas and my search on Google has so far failed to  
turn up a possible solution!!!!

The important thing for me is to save all my files (I know I know I  
should have backed up and I have but the back up info is slightly out  
of date :-( )

I have used a live CD to try and copy the files but didn't work.

Any suggestions how I can repair the login or just save and copy the  
files would be brilliant as I can always do a clean install.

Many Thanks in advance for your help.

Dy

Dafydd Eveleigh

Please Visit my Website
http://www.evejam.co.uk/

Hi All

Just to let you know that I have found a way of saving all my files  
using live CD.

I when to the terminal and typed in

sudo -i which gave me root access and that I was able to chmod and  
chown to give me access via the live CD.

I have now saved all my files and will do a clean install later.

Still very strange how this happened in the first place!!!!!!

Many Thanks

Dy
On 17 Jan 2009, at 13:10, Dafydd Eveleigh wrote:

> Hi Folks
>
> I really don't know why this as happened as I haven't done any  
> tinkering this morning, and has been working fine all week.
>
> I booted up and logged in fine this morning, then I used a different  
> account for my kids to do some typing.
>
> Now when I boot up I get the login screen I login and the login  
> process starts and then I am sent back to the login screen.
>
> I have tried using crtl+alt+f1 for terminal login and the same thing  
> happens I keep being sent back to the login.
>
> I have also tried failsafe mode both gnome and terminal.
>
> I have run out of ideas and my search on Google has so far failed to  
> turn up a possible solution!!!!
>
> The important thing for me is to save all my files (I know I know I  
> should have backed up and I have but the back up info is slightly  
> out of date :-( )
>
> I have used a live CD to try and copy the files but didn't work.
>
> Any suggestions how I can repair the login or just save and copy the  
> files would be brilliant as I can always do a clean install.
>
> Many Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Dy
>
> Dafydd Eveleigh
>
> Please Visit my Website
> http://www.evejam.co.uk/
>
>
>
>
>
>
Dafydd Eveleigh

Please Visit my Website
http://www.evejam.co.uk/

Glad you sorted it out!

Was going to say have you tried password reset

anyway for backups have you tried drop box?

http://www.getdropbox.com

I use this for quick temporary back ups daily and when i reach a
certain amount of mb I back up to a backup server or any hardware back
up.

Fintan
2009/1/17 Dafydd Eveleigh :
> Hi All
> Just to let you know that I have found a way of saving all my files using
> live CD.
> I when to the terminal and typed in
> sudo -i which gave me root access and that I was able to chmod and chown to
> give me access via the live CD.
> I have now saved all my files and will do a clean install later.
> Still very strange how this happened in the first place!!!!!!
> Many Thanks
> Dy
> On 17 Jan 2009, at 13:10, Dafydd Eveleigh wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
> I really don't know why this as happened as I haven't done any tinkering
> this morning, and has been working fine all week.
> I booted up and logged in fine this morning, then I used a different account
> for my kids to do some typing.
> Now when I boot up I get the login screen I login and the login process
> starts and then I am sent back to the login screen.
> I have tried using crtl+alt+f1 for terminal login and the same thing happens
> I keep being sent back to the login.
> I have also tried failsafe mode both gnome and terminal.
> I have run out of ideas and my search on Google has so far failed to turn up
> a possible solution!!!!
> The important thing for me is to save all my files (I know I know I should
> have backed up and I have but the back up info is slightly out of date :-( )
> I have used a live CD to try and copy the files but didn't work.
> Any suggestions how I can repair the login or just save and copy the files
> would be brilliant as I can always do a clean install.
> Many Thanks in advance for your help.
> Dy
> Dafydd Eveleigh
> Please Visit my Website
> http://www.evejam.co.uk/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dafydd Eveleigh
> Please Visit my Website
> http://www.evejam.co.uk/
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>

Most simple solution although yes this involve command line...but there's no
farfing around with live CD's or copying files etc.

When you first boot, you get a Grub menu - where you are provided with a
list of operating system to boot from (such as Ubuntu, Windows if dual
booting) - you might need to press Esc to see this.

You are then provided with a list of kernel version, with the most recent at
top.

There are also entries for root mode as well - this boot up a basic linux
system for you, without starting X (the GUI bits) and also auto log you in
as a root user in command line mode.

Now since you are a root user this give you all the power including the
ability to change your user password.

To change password of your usual username just enter:

passwd [username]

And then type

exit

and it'll boot up into GUI as normal (above is based on Ubuntu so ymmv)

(now you might think this sound rather insecure, giving root access at boot
up - well not really...for servers, they tend to be locked away, so there's
no way to get access...if they do, well they pretty much have access to the
disk already. - and that's where encyption comes in so useful, especially
for laptops! - Next version of Ubuntu aim to have fully encrypted /home as
an option. Current version is either full disk encryption or a encrypted
~/Private directory in your /home).
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Fintan Gaughan  wrote:

> Glad you sorted it out!
>
> Was going to say have you tried password reset
>
> anyway for backups have you tried drop box?
>
> http://www.getdropbox.com
>
> I use this for quick temporary back ups daily and when i reach a
> certain amount of mb I back up to a backup server or any hardware back
> up.
>
> Fintan
>
>
>
>
> 2009/1/17 Dafydd Eveleigh :
> > Hi All
> > Just to let you know that I have found a way of saving all my files using
> > live CD.
> > I when to the terminal and typed in
> > sudo -i which gave me root access and that I was able to chmod and chown
> to
> > give me access via the live CD.
> > I have now saved all my files and will do a clean install later.
> > Still very strange how this happened in the first place!!!!!!
> > Many Thanks
> > Dy
> > On 17 Jan 2009, at 13:10, Dafydd Eveleigh wrote:
> >
> > Hi Folks
> > I really don't know why this as happened as I haven't done any tinkering
> > this morning, and has been working fine all week.
> > I booted up and logged in fine this morning, then I used a different
> account
> > for my kids to do some typing.
> > Now when I boot up I get the login screen I login and the login process
> > starts and then I am sent back to the login screen.
> > I have tried using crtl+alt+f1 for terminal login and the same thing
> happens
> > I keep being sent back to the login.
> > I have also tried failsafe mode both gnome and terminal.
> > I have run out of ideas and my search on Google has so far failed to turn
> up
> > a possible solution!!!!
> > The important thing for me is to save all my files (I know I know I
> should
> > have backed up and I have but the back up info is slightly out of date
> :-( )
> > I have used a live CD to try and copy the files but didn't work.
> > Any suggestions how I can repair the login or just save and copy the
> files
> > would be brilliant as I can always do a clean install.
> > Many Thanks in advance for your help.
> > Dy
> > Dafydd Eveleigh
> > Please Visit my Website
> > http://www.evejam.co.uk/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dafydd Eveleigh
> > Please Visit my Website
> > http://www.evejam.co.uk/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Deaf-lug mailing list
> > Deaf-lug at mailman.lug.org.uk
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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Thank you very much for this info.

I have just set it up and is what I have been looking for for a long  
time.

Not just as a back up solution but allows me to work on my laptop when  
I m out and about but also to work on my desktop when I am home.

Gone are the days where I have to transfer things back and for and get  
the latest version  messed up :-)

I wonder how easy or hard it would be to set-up your own "dropbox"  
server? as I have some info that if personal and don't want to risk it  
going to the US of A server which I have no control over.

Having my own dropbox server means I will be able to share all the  
photos and media that I have will all of my families laptops :-)

Dy
On 17 Jan 2009, at 17:28, Fintan Gaughan wrote:

> Glad you sorted it out!
>
> Was going to say have you tried password reset
>
> anyway for backups have you tried drop box?
>
> http://www.getdropbox.com
>
> I use this for quick temporary back ups daily and when i reach a
> certain amount of mb I back up to a backup server or any hardware back
> up.
>
> Fintan
>
>
>
>
> 2009/1/17 Dafydd Eveleigh :
>> Hi All
>> Just to let you know that I have found a way of saving all my files  
>> using
>> live CD.
>> I when to the terminal and typed in
>> sudo -i which gave me root access and that I was able to chmod and  
>> chown to
>> give me access via the live CD.
>> I have now saved all my files and will do a clean install later.
>> Still very strange how this happened in the first place!!!!!!
>> Many Thanks
>> Dy
>> On 17 Jan 2009, at 13:10, Dafydd Eveleigh wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks
>> I really don't know why this as happened as I haven't done any  
>> tinkering
>> this morning, and has been working fine all week.
>> I booted up and logged in fine this morning, then I used a  
>> different account
>> for my kids to do some typing.
>> Now when I boot up I get the login screen I login and the login  
>> process
>> starts and then I am sent back to the login screen.
>> I have tried using crtl+alt+f1 for terminal login and the same  
>> thing happens
>> I keep being sent back to the login.
>> I have also tried failsafe mode both gnome and terminal.
>> I have run out of ideas and my search on Google has so far failed  
>> to turn up
>> a possible solution!!!!
>> The important thing for me is to save all my files (I know I know I  
>> should
>> have backed up and I have but the back up info is slightly out of  
>> date :-( )
>> I have used a live CD to try and copy the files but didn't work.
>> Any suggestions how I can repair the login or just save and copy  
>> the files
>> would be brilliant as I can always do a clean install.
>> Many Thanks in advance for your help.
>> Dy
>> Dafydd Eveleigh
>> Please Visit my Website
>> http://www.evejam.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dafydd Eveleigh
>> Please Visit my Website
>> http://www.evejam.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Deaf-lug mailing list
>> Deaf-lug at mailman.lug.org.uk
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>>
>>
>
>
>
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Dafydd Eveleigh

Please Visit my Website
http://www.evejam.co.uk/

Bear in mind that Dropbox does say that for the free version, they can yank
it anytime they wish without warning. I only use it as a "flash disk" and
nothing more - ie a nice way of transferring files from my home laptop in
Leeds to the office in London without needing to carry a disk around.

I would never use Dropbox as a backup solution - you are using their
storage. I would rather (and already do) use JungleDisk to backup to my own
storage that I pay for with my own encryption keys on a European based data
center (it's faster transferring to a local server rather than to somewhere
on the other side of USA.

Dropbox have no plan to release a version of a "dropbox server" - the
nearest you can get is Novell's iFolder (which have been around for much
longer than Dropbox...both does the same thing essentially really, just
Dropbox make use of cloud computing whereas iFolder doesn't (you run the
server yourself).
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Dafydd Eveleigh wrote:

> Thank you very much for this info.
>
> I have just set it up and is what I have been looking for for a long
> time.
>
> Not just as a back up solution but allows me to work on my laptop when
> I m out and about but also to work on my desktop when I am home.
>
> Gone are the days where I have to transfer things back and for and get
> the latest version  messed up :-)
>
> I wonder how easy or hard it would be to set-up your own "dropbox"
> server? as I have some info that if personal and don't want to risk it
> going to the US of A server which I have no control over.
>
> Having my own dropbox server means I will be able to share all the
> photos and media that I have will all of my families laptops :-)
>
> Dy
>
> On 17 Jan 2009, at 17:28, Fintan Gaughan wrote:
>
> > Glad you sorted it out!
> >
> > Was going to say have you tried password reset
> >
> > anyway for backups have you tried drop box?
> >
> > http://www.getdropbox.com
> >
> > I use this for quick temporary back ups daily and when i reach a
> > certain amount of mb I back up to a backup server or any hardware back
> > up.
> >
> > Fintan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/1/17 Dafydd Eveleigh :
> >> Hi All
> >> Just to let you know that I have found a way of saving all my files
> >> using
> >> live CD.
> >> I when to the terminal and typed in
> >> sudo -i which gave me root access and that I was able to chmod and
> >> chown to
> >> give me access via the live CD.
> >> I have now saved all my files and will do a clean install later.
> >> Still very strange how this happened in the first place!!!!!!
> >> Many Thanks
> >> Dy
> >> On 17 Jan 2009, at 13:10, Dafydd Eveleigh wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Folks
> >> I really don't know why this as happened as I haven't done any
> >> tinkering
> >> this morning, and has been working fine all week.
> >> I booted up and logged in fine this morning, then I used a
> >> different account
> >> for my kids to do some typing.
> >> Now when I boot up I get the login screen I login and the login
> >> process
> >> starts and then I am sent back to the login screen.
> >> I have tried using crtl+alt+f1 for terminal login and the same
> >> thing happens
> >> I keep being sent back to the login.
> >> I have also tried failsafe mode both gnome and terminal.
> >> I have run out of ideas and my search on Google has so far failed
> >> to turn up
> >> a possible solution!!!!
> >> The important thing for me is to save all my files (I know I know I
> >> should
> >> have backed up and I have but the back up info is slightly out of
> >> date :-( )
> >> I have used a live CD to try and copy the files but didn't work.
> >> Any suggestions how I can repair the login or just save and copy
> >> the files
> >> would be brilliant as I can always do a clean install.
> >> Many Thanks in advance for your help.
> >> Dy
> >> Dafydd Eveleigh
> >> Please Visit my Website
> >> http://www.evejam.co.uk/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dafydd Eveleigh
> >> Please Visit my Website
> >> http://www.evejam.co.uk/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Deaf-lug mailing list
> >> Deaf-lug at mailman.lug.org.uk
> >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/d...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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>
>
>
> Dafydd Eveleigh
>
> Please Visit my Website
> http://www.evejam.co.uk/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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